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Yes, I also have one gitted to my Mizuno F50 4 wood, I'm getting more used to it the more I play with it, I hit my driver probably 12 times per round (on average), I mighy only hit my 4 wood once or twice - perhaps that explains why it's taking a little longer to get used to it.

ZM.

what specs is your hybrid and what length/sw will you make it? (i have added my details to the earlier post)

I haven't really thought about it yet...I have the 20* MP 630 which is 40.25" golf.mizunoeurope.com/woods/mp-630-clk/

I'd like to play it a bit shorter than stadard so I may trim it to 39.75".

ZM.

Zico,

I am glad you put this on the SITD. If folks only knew what an advantage you have playing a Nunchuk ! I hope your sales are good.

Lane

Zico, et al – Here’s My Recent Experience With This Shaft.

Zico, if you remember recently - off-line - we discussed an issue I had with removing an R11 adaptor sleeve from the shaft I purchased from you. By having a number of goes at it with the hot air gun, I failed, just would not budge. I was concerned that I had disturbed the composite fibres and to try and save the shaft I resorted to removing the adaptor - being aluminium – by immersing in caustic soda……boy, does that stuff get to work. After approx 45mins it had all gone and left the shaft in tact. I thought I was able to save this but on closer inspection the fibers were damaged approx ¼” above where the adaptor was. Zico suggested that I try and salvage the shaft before ditching it, which I have successfully done. Because of the damaged fibres, I removed 1.1/2” form the parallel tip, though I do understand – Nventix told me this - that there is only 2” of parallel to play with and that means after that, the shaft begins to taper and then you wonder about the shaft’s integrity.
The head that I am now using with the same shaft is SMT Deep Bore and that means it has a hosel bore depth of 2.1/4”. To relieve some of bore depth and so as not to eat too much into the taper part of the shaft, I had an alloy insert machined to fit at ¾” length weighing a mere 2grams and glued this into the hosel bore. Now I only have 1.1/2” of bore depth in stead of 2.1/4” in which to insert the shaft and unfortunately I only have ½” of parallel tip left to play with. But because the taper is very slight from the parallel tip end, I was still able to insert the shaft with a snug fit when removing the coating over 1.1/2” and not by undercutting into the fibres. I did this successfully and of course I had to counterbalance this by extending the butt end by similar amount to get back to playing length and , touch wood, with no repercussions since. But because I am still conscious of the repair work, I tend to check to ensure its integrity. As for playability, I have not experienced or noticed any difference to what this amazing shaft can do…..it still performs, and admittedly, even though I’m an Aerospace Engineer, I still messed up.
So, FYI, for those guys that are using the SMT Spectrum heads with the Nunchuk, it also has a very deep bore at 2.3/8”slightly more so than the SMT 455 DB at 2.1/4”, so that means the bore is eating somewhat into the tapered part of the shaft by 3/8 inch –that ferrule would have been real tight going onto the tapered part of the shaft.

Phil. A

Phil, you're absolutely right - getting that ferrule onto my SMT Spectrum was NOT easy.

I love this shaft in my driver - I'm really looking forwward to fitting the 370 to my hybrid this weekend.

I actually have plans in the next week or two to offer UK based golfers the chance to demo a NUNCHUK in their Taylor Made or Titleist clubs. I'll be pre-fitting some shaft adaptors to some demo shafts (for the driver and fairway wood).

I'll courier the demo shaft, if the player doesn't like it, they can just return it to me for full refund (less carriage).

ZM.

removed 1.1/2” from the parallel tip, though I do understand – Nventix told me this - that there is only 2” of parallel to play with and that means after that, the shaft begins to taper and then you wonder about the shaft’s integrity.

Phil,

Nice recovery.

I messed up big time with a fire on my work bench, that melted the tip of a Nunchuk.that was leaning against the bench.
Nventix explained the same to me, 2 inches of parallel.

I cut 3 inches from the tip and sanded into the tapered section to fit a Nak hybrid.
Mike at Nventix told me they had never tipped a Nunckuk that much so didnt explain why it works so well. Its my favourite of my three Nunchuk.

All three are more solid than any other shaft I have tried, but the tipped shaft just seems to have the small flex section in the right spot for me or extra stiffness makes it better, or extra butt length with counter weighting suits me better? Will probably never know.

Not recommending tipping Nunchuk. Nventix should be consulted, but if anyone messes up like I did and Nunchuk needs to be tipped, dont discard the shaft. .

Daryl,
Your'e one happy man, glad it all worked out for you.

Zico
I'm sure the demos will be interesting feedback for with Taylormade and Titleist heads here in the UK.
I have an R11 head (440cc) and that was my first experience with the shaft. I set mine to max 10.5 degress and the results were fine with great consistency. I'm sure others will be surprised when they reinsert the original shaft to compare and find it's as slack as lion tamer's whip. When I did that it came quicker than when went in. But I wanted to settle for a no fuss head and true to loft, that is why I'm experimenting with the two heads in this thread below ......I can sell on my R11 whipper snapper at a good price on ebay.

I like to experiment and as I recently mentioned in the previous post, I had trouble getting R11adaptor sleeve off, but that was me not having the right tools to do the job.

My other experiences with heads: The SMT 455 Deep Bore 11 degrees is great combination with Nunchuk shaft and has great soft forge feel off the face, gives a nice boring flight with good roll out, as does the Bridgestone J33r 460 10.5 degrees, which I've also been experimenting with; I think this has more roll out, assisted with a mid boring flight as it was originally built for distance. It has a somewhat muted sound off the face, but is a solid all-rounder, another great combination.
Both heads have a deep faces with classic pear shape looks and looking down, these do not look like 455/460cc heads compared to some of the hideous ones we have currently.

Up the Nunchuk!!

Is there an update on the iron shafts? Apologies if it has recently been asked.

Cheers,

Phil.A

Ok, have test driven the Nunchuk Hybrid

In a 21deg, 232gram head, at 40.5" playing length which comes out at D2. The shaft replaced a FST Steel Shaft which played D4 at 40.0". Uncut shaft is 43" 115gr which means the nunchuk is a few grams lighter.

I am hitting weak high fades with this, could not hit a draw to save my life. So not really sure what is happening here - too short maybe?

With the steel shaft i hit a bit lower, consistently solid and with a draw one of the best clubs I have ever had. Its almost like I have ran out of puff. Just to prove it wasnt me I hit a few with my nunchuck driver and it was as solid and reliable as ever. I am beginning to wonder if the Nunchuk has no advantage over a steel shaft.

if AD21 was made back in the early 90's and is claimed here to be superior to it's runt offspring the Nunchuck then why aren't you re-making the AD21 with today mfg technology?

ZZZ,

Gerry Hogan had some prominent fans of his AD21 back then:

Fundamentally new golf clubs for the 21st century

Golf is one of the most popular participation sports in Australia. With one course for every 12,000 people, Australia has more golf courses per head of population than anywhere else in the world. So when former Australian Test cricket skipper Greg Chappell and his partners introduced a fundamentally new concept in golf clubs, which performed considerably better than conventional ones, the sizeable local golfing fraternity 'Down Under' could hardly wait to try them out.

Conceived by inventor Gerry Hogan, the Fundamental 21AD clubs are at the forefront of world golf technology, and look set to turn the world of golf upside down. According to Golf Australia magazine, "His clubs do not so much challenge conventional clubs as threaten to render them obsolete". One of the great swingers of the game, 1957 US Open champion Tommy Bolt, who had given up the game for more than ten years, says the clubs have given him back lost distance. Another golfing great, Norman von Nida, said the new clubs were "the greatest advance in golf club technology in my lifetime". 1990 US PGA champion Wayne Grady, and all time great Jack Nicklaus are other 'names' that have apparently been suitably impressed by the new clubs.

Commercialised by Fundamental Golf and Leisure Ltd, the revolutionary new concept takes into consideration the basic principle that a golf club will function better as an integral part and extension of the player, rather than as an independent tool that requires expert manipulation.

The secret of greater distance and straighter hitting is the optimum placement of the weight. Most of the weight in the heavier graphite shaft is in the grip end, and the club head is lighter than normal. The clubs have a strict head-weight to shaft-weight relationship. Because of the improved balance, the club is easier to swing and enables optimum control of the dynamic torque of the shaft, so the shaft returns the club head squarer to the ball more consistently. Custom made up to 5cms longer than standard, the clubs put the player in an optimum position of balance before and during the swing.

Just as bigger heads and high-tech fibre tennis racquets revolutionised tennis equipment, the 21AD technology is expected to do the same for golf. Perhaps most importantly, they will make the game a little easier and even more enjoyable, for many thousands of golfers.

apc-online.com/twa/sports2.html

Mark,

Did you install the Nunchuk Hybrid 370 ? Does that 21 degree have any adjustable weights in the toe and heel ? Also- you might want to check that 21 degree. The loft number on the bottom certainly does not mean that it is actually 21 degrees. Most are not very accurate.
Unlike most shafts the Nunchuk has a very stable tip. It is not designed to allow the clubhead to go off on it's own tangent and bend past the ball pre-impact. In fact, at 130-135 clubhead speed the head does not flip forward like most. It was not the intent of the designer to make a shaft that required certain timing to square the head at impact. That is very diffcult for even the most talented players ! You might want to experiment with trying to pull the butt of the club around your body with more force. Maybe you just used to timing the head. Not necessary or recommend with the Nunchuk.

Hope this explains somewhat.

Lane

Very recently I was with a very well known Aussie Pro and he had never heard of the Nunchuk shaft I had. He hit it and said it spun too much, ballooned and was too heavy. My mate hit it great and we actually did not agree with the Pro who was hitting a well known recently released white headed driver. Not saying the Pro was wrong or we were right it's just a case of what works for YOU regardless of the club or marketing.

ZZZ,

This might explain -- Gerry does not like .335 tips. In fact , it took some serious redesigning before he would approve the .335 Nunchuk driver shaft. Gerry will not put his name on anything that does not meet his extremely high standards !
Gerry gave me an original AD 21 .370 tip driver shaft he patented in 1992. TM, PIng , Callaway, Nike and others have millions of dollars tied up in molds to mfgt. .335 bored driver heads. Try to convince them to go to .370 ? No way !

Lane

Steve,

The trick is getting the correct loft for each individual. Actually, the test results on the Nunchuk are irrefutable. The Nunchuk decels at impact at approx. 7-8 %. ( LESS SPIN ) Most decel at approx. 20-25 %.
Check out the- Nventix.com-- website and watch the demo of my friend , Bryan Nicholson, Head Pro at Northwoods in Dallas , Tx. This video was done at Nike . You can cetainly come to your own conclusion watching it.

Regards,

Lane

Lane, I know the real trick is getting the right head and loft to get the best out of this shaft and I managed to do that. I have two of these drivers and no doubt they work, especially into the wind. I was surprised that a Pro was not even aware of the Chuk shaft and I suppose he was never going to endorse something he is not paid to use

"We are the servants and physics is the master!

"the revolutionary new concept takes into consideration the basic principle that a golf club will function better as an integral part and extension of the player, rather than as an independent tool that requires expert manipulation."


Gerry wrote:
We MUST work out, as servants and not masters, what the shaft is required to do, as demanded under the laws and rules of physics, to satisfy ever facet of it's own performance functionality. We then MUST discipline ourselves to serve the needs of the golf shaft!
It takes a little to get a grab on the reality of that notion but, if you do, your world will change massively, for the better.
Gerry

Hi, is there already on ideal setup for the .370 hybrid? ( like there is the 43.5, 210 gram for the driver)?

is this shaft any good in a hybrid?

In one of the videos Elk was saying that he did not like the shaft in the driver and 3 wood but really likes it in his hybrid. I hope my recollection is correct.

is this shaft any good in a hybrid?

Diz,

I have the original Nunchuk in a 24 deg Nak hybrid. Its terrific

Would like to know how good the 0.370 Nventix shaft is. Have a 19 deg Nak I have experimented with but after two attempts with cheap shaft alternatives, cant come even close to Nunchuk for solid feel, dispersion and control (height and distance)

AD21 was 0.370 diameter tip, so suspect new .370 should be good. Imagine its a bit easier/cheaper to mfg a very , very stiff tip in .370 compared to .335.

Would like to hear some reviews of the new 0.370

Darryl,

I am down in Dallas visiting with the CEO of Nunchuck. It' s success is amazing ! Folks that are not using the Nunchuck are missing something special .

Lane

I am down in Dallas visiting with the CEO of Nunchuck. It' s success is amazing ! Folks that are not using the Nunchuck are missing something special .


Lane,

After you guys finish busting par in Dallas, would be appreciated if you would post details on performance of the 370 shaft .

For those of us who already use original Nunchuk, how does 370 compare? Possibly even less kick/droop than original?

Any gains to use 370 in a long iron?

One day I would like to play in a foursome all using Nunchuk. The sound of solid is so much more pleasing.

Darryl,

Mike installed 370's in all my hybrids this week. The difference is amazing. It just eliminates an awful lot of side spin . It definitely helped my tendency to pull shots. I now know why many pros favor the 370 in hybrids.
I hit the new iron shaft in a 7 iron and it is sensational. No ballooned shots, no flip in the tip, just boring consistent shots. However , I am dealing with two Major perfectionist-- Gerry and Mike.
They will not introduce it until it is perfect.

Regards,

Lane

I have the 370 in my hybrid and it's very stable, I love it...

ZM

Zico Martin wrote:


Im going buy one tonight..

thxs zico