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I know even the reason why he is here and you will find it out in one or two weeks. I tell you then.

oh well.
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Drew, SVSV,

Is this Larry Mowry on the right ?

phily wrote:


Yes, sir!

Steve P wrote:



Rubbish! It is easier to swing like Bubba than Hogan! Two concrete examples.


Hogan used a weak grip with both hands. What other great golfer used a weak grip in both hands? Johnny Miller, if you consider two majors great. Nobody else. Bubba uses a strong grip, by far the grip of choice on tour, and one that is much easier to deliver a square clubface at impact.

Hogan's backswing was flat and he got his arms a little behind him. As a result, he had to work like a demon to get his arms back in front of him in the downswing. Ever watch his "concentration drills" where he forces the right elbow deep in front of his chest? He never stopped working on that: he's still doing it in George Coleman's backyard in 1978!!!



In fact, post-accident, because of his weakened hip turn, Hogan couldn't get his right elbow where it was pre-accident:







A higher arm swing, like Bubba's makes that move easier to execute, as Kelvin explains in this video:



Both Hogan and Bubba were/are fantastic athletes, but Larry Mowry posted years ago at the Plane Truth site asking why everyone was obsessing over Hogan when Tiger Woods had a superior swing that was easier to learn. Well, now there is a new sheriff in town, and his name is Bubba.







Jeff

Jeff, .. you mentioned working with Kelvin Miyahira, anything interesting you are currently working on right now that you can share?

SVSV, sorry. I did not realize that was private. Tell me what you want to be called and I will call you only that.

I'm glad you are back. You have put a lot of time and study in on the mechanics, and I enjoy your substantive posts and it was super cool to see how you helped Grady. Really cool.

Once again, i would encourage you to condense your thoughts and start a thread with them. I think the forum would benefit from that, and i think it would be great to start over with a fresh canvas. You should not be afraid to that.

Jeff, .. you mentioned working with Kelvin Miyahira, anything interesting you are currently working on right now that you can share?

I started this cartoon earlier, wished I hadn't, but here's at least what I was going for.

lmao.

phily wrote:



Also, flattening the left wrist in the downswing (cupped to bowed), including a bit of early supination, but not a lot since I'm also working on a strong grip. Also want to get my arms and right elbow higher in the backswing (trying to shed all of the Jim Hardy one-plane nonsense once and for all).




Jeff

Steve P wrote:



Rubbish! It is easier to swing like Bubba than Hogan! Two concrete examples.


Hogan used a weak grip with both hands. What other great golfer used a weak grip in both hands? Johnny Miller, if you consider two majors great. Nobody else. Bubba uses a strong grip, by far the grip of choice on tour, and one that is much easier to deliver a square clubface at impact.

Hogan's backswing was flat and he got his arms a little behind him. As a result, he had to work like a demon to get his arms back in front of him in the downswing. Ever watch his "concentration drills" where he forces the right elbow deep in front of his chest? He never stopped working on that: he's still doing it in George Coleman's backyard in 1978!!!



In fact, post-accident, because of his weakened hip turn, Hogan couldn't get his right elbow where it was pre-accident:







A higher arm swing, like Bubba's makes that move easier to execute, as Kelvin explains in this video:



Both Hogan and Bubba were/are fantastic athletes, but Larry Mowry posted years ago at the Plane Truth site asking why everyone was obsessing over Hogan when Tiger Woods had a superior swing that was easier to learn. Well, now there is a new sheriff in town, and his name is Bubba.







Jeff

Grady Dickens wrote:




Then that makes me Bubba BAD!!!!




Jeff

Steve P wrote:



Rubbish! It is easier to swing like Bubba than Hogan! Two concrete examples.


Hogan used a weak grip with both hands. What other great golfer used a weak grip in both hands? Johnny Miller, if you consider two majors great. Nobody else. Bubba uses a strong grip, by far the grip of choice on tour, and one that is much easier to deliver a square clubface at impact.

Hogan's backswing was flat and he got his arms a little behind him. As a result, he had to work like a demon to get his arms back in front of him in the downswing. Ever watch his "concentration drills" where he forces the right elbow deep in front of his chest? He never stopped working on that: he's still doing it in George Coleman's backyard in 1978!!!



In fact, post-accident, because of his weakened hip turn, Hogan couldn't get his right elbow where it was pre-accident:







A higher arm swing, like Bubba's makes that move easier to execute, as Kelvin explains in this video:



Both Hogan and Bubba were/are fantastic athletes, but Larry Mowry posted years ago at the Plane Truth site asking why everyone was obsessing over Hogan when Tiger Woods had a superior swing that was easier to learn. Well, now there is a new sheriff in town, and his name is Bubba.







Jeff

Tapio Santala wrote:




Why wait, Tapio? I came here to burst your balloon! Off to a pretty good start, I'd say!

How was your sleep last night?




Jeff

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Can't agree with your statement that Hogan swung flat. He swung upright on that plane of glass of his. And if you consider his shorter height and longer arms, you would realize how upright it is. It's just that his L arm swung flat relative to his shoulders, especially L shoulder.[/quote]


He couldn't be flatter or more around him.

http://teeace.kapsi.fi/hogantop.jpeg

Jeff Martin wrote:

Not a great motivation for coming here......
Posting your over-rotated mess of a swing wasn't the best start....

Jeff, you wrote:

However, I no plans to start planting my left heel and try to keep it stationary. Might look pretty, but it strips out athleticism.

Are you kidding? If not, says who?

Doesn't it simply reduce to how one is moving through space.

On a side note, I've only posted on 2 golf forums ( Advanced Ball Striking and SITD ) both having what I consider some fine professional minds walking the internet halls offering great insight and instruction. It continually amazes me, and is beyond description sometimes, when individuals, perhaps amateurs, with nowhere near the playing or practical ability seem to swat away comments from those that walk the halls like an irrelevant horsefly- or will make an absurd comment about Johnny Miller's career.

Just sayin'.....while biting my tongue.

Jeff Martin wrote:


Bubba, just like yours, lifts his left heel because he doesn't get his hip center forward or targetwards enough, which is needed to free up the L hip. If he doesn't, he will injure or cause pain in his inside L hip muscles/tendons. That lifting of L heel move also is needed to make his baseline/path more inline (less out to in) and to shallow it out big time. Actually, ultimate cause is that too upright L arm swing of his coupled with a lack of and early enough lateral movement of the L hip (which Nicklaus did so perfectly, by the way; no, Nicklaus didn't lift his L heel). Bubba, as I see it, just turns the heck out of his hips without much lateral (as I said unlike Nicklaus). If Bubba (or you, for that matter) doesn't lift your L heel, you will end up like an old man crouching over towards the target in the finish, unless of course you stop turning your shoulders/torso, which in this case will cause Bubba/you to finish on your R foot.