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BHSP,

E is the pitching wedge. #3 shaft is regular flex. Edge is a game improvement forged iron. I wouldn't be too excited about them, but if you are playing something from Sports Authority they are probably an improvement. If you really want Hogan irons designed by Hogan you need to go further back in time. Something from the 60s would be great, 70s good and 80s okay. The company was sold long ago...and Hogan's influence over it obviously decreased.

Grady Dickens wrote:


Thanks for the info Grady. I do plan to invest in a complete set of the most original I can find...no matter the cost, but that will be in a few years after I have an idea of what I am doing.

BHSP, no better way to "get an idea of what you're doing" than to start hitting some old blades!

And seriously...except for the old Precisions and Bounce Soles (the really collectible stuff), you can pick up great sets of pre-Callaway Hogan irons for a song.

Here are some Apex PC's, in fine shape: www.ebay.com/itm/BEN-HOGAN-APEX-PC-2-PW-...;hash=item4ab02b9700

$200 bucks ain't bad at all (and you can find them even cheaper). And that's a blade that's as good or better than anything Titleist or Mizuno or Miura or anyone else puts out today.

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Thanks for the info Grady. I do plan to invest in a complete set of the most original I can find...no matter the cost, but that will be in a few years after I have an idea of what I am doing.[/quote]

Here's a link that will give you a quick look at most of the models that were made prior to the entrance of Callaway:

www.equip2golf.com/archives/archives_frameset.html?history.html~archives

Anybody have any suggestions where I could go to fill in my set of Hogans missing 8,6, and equalizer from 1974-76 ( not sure which year) Apex 5 shaft.

Thanks

Bill,

www.ironfinder.com/

Site seems to have alot of irons. I have never bought from them. They claim they have been in business since 1982 so probably not a fly by night outfit.

Full set of Ben Hogan Producer irons found at the Mobile, Alabama flea market. 2i thru 9i. And Spalding leather bag with working zippers and 1, 3, 4 head covers.

We were on the way to Mardi Gras in Mobile and Anita recommended that we stop by the flea market to browse. Of course I complained because the wives can lose their minds in there for hours. Then Kim reminded me that "you know, somebody might have golf stuff laying around....." She said the magic words!!

My daughter pointed out a golf bag at a nearby vendor. As I approached, I could start to see the "Ben Hogan" name imprinted. I tried by best to control my emotions, but I sorta yelled out and jumped in the air as I saw they were a complete set (Kim is still shaking her head on that one....says I acted like a kid on Christmas day! "Really????? Do you have to make a scene....you got people staring at us like we have no home training!") Well what does she expect lol??? She was absolutely right. Santa had come by the flea market and left me a gift!!!! You should have seen me trying to "act" unconcerned about the clubs. Lol, the lady at the booth had already seen me jumping like I won the lottery lol! I started talking loud to my kids saying "yea, these clubs are old and crusty. They are not worth anything. They look very used and no one would play with them cause they are so old and outdated. Even the bag is ancient. I can't think of anybody that would be caught being seen with it." I was saying all this really loud so the lady wouldn't jack the price up cause I squealed like a pig with I initially saw them. I walked over and said in my most neutral, monotone, non-emotional voice "I see you got these old beat up clubs here that are so outdated, my golf buddies would laugh at me if I brought them on the golf course." She said, "the price is on the bag." There was a small neon orange ticket that said "$30." I said, "Yeaaa, I don't know if they're worth even $10, just cause they are so old." She said "they were my dads....I'm not sure what he paid for them back in the 70's, but probably more than $30." I said "ok...I'll do $30 even though I'll probably get them home and toss them in a corner of my basement and let em rot."

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHAWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!

Ball flight update:
We made it to the course on Sunday 2-5-12, although it was dreary and rainy. We initially went to Spring Hill, but didn't have a tee time, so the wait would have been a few hours. We were told to try Robert Trent Jones in Mobile. It was about 10 mins from Spring Hill. Because of the weather, we decided to skip the range and play the Short Course. It has only par 3's, which wasn't much fun to me cause I was looking forward to using my long woods; that's all I've been experimenting with in the basement the past few months. We only did 9 holes. My final score was 54. Lots of bogey's, as well as a 9 and a 10 on back-to-back holes. Ball flight was about the same as last year; kinda high and fading. There was also a big block to the right into the water twice.

The funniest part was when Bruce said "ummmmmmm, man, I thought you were working on this stuff every night in the basement????" I laughed and said "I've only been working on the setup." And of course he said "who the heck cares about the setup and the waggle and all that boring stuff???? None of that spit matters....only thing anybody cares about is how low you score. Man....you've wasted all this time worrying about teeing the ball up and waggling.....lol...you're wasting your time.......I will be taking your money all year long."


Practice update:This cycle of waggle training is about done. I'll work on it some more when I go through the whole swing again from the beginning in a few months. The concentration drill takeaway coming up next.

ive played the trent jones there in Mobile

Here's an example of what I'm doing from the perspective of a person tinkering with a car:

I own a basic, plain, 1991 S10 pickup with 2.5l 4 cylinder. It drives ok except for the ocassional sputtering and white smoke when I start it. The window seals and hood vents have rust buildup. It doesn't have the best torque or speed, but gets me to work every day just fine. I can't floor it and jump into traffic, but it does ok for me.
(The golf relation: In 2009 and 2010, I owned a basic, plain golf swing. Nothing special about it. It got me around the course. I could drive the ball ok, except for the occassional push block or shank. The swing didnt have the best speed, but I had lots of fun playing with my foursome every weekend.)

S10 Pickup Overhaul: I was flipping channels one day and saw a show about overhauling trucks. One of the trucks on the show caught my eye. It was a rust bucket that looked like it hadn't been driven for years. They were replacing the heads, jettin the carb, adding custom wheels/tires, custom paint job, lowering it for better cornering performance, etc. I thought, hmmmmmm, nothing major is wrong with my truck the way it is, but I wonder if I can make a few changes to it and make it look different...maybe even perform better? What do I have to lose? If I blow the engine, I'll just drive my other car lol.

Golf Swing Overhaul: I was flipping youtube channels one day and saw some old black n white footage of a dude in a white hat. The swing looked unlike any other that I had ever seen. I said, hmmmmm, nothing major is wrong with my swing, but I wonder if I can learn how to do that type of swing? What do I have to lose? If I can't learn this new swing, I'll just go back to swinging like I always did lol.

S10 Pickup Overhaul: So I begin the process of tearing down my truck. While I'm rebuilding the engine and adding parts, I willl take it out for a drive to see how it was performing based on the things I had changed. I put a new carb in it...take it out and noticed that it had better gas pedal response, but it sputtered at high speeds. So I would take it back into the garage and tweek the carb some more. I also notice that when it came time to slam on the brakes and slow the thing down, it didn't stop as it should. More tweeking.

Golf Swing Overhaul: As I am in the process of overhauling my swing, I will take it out to the range or course to see what it is doing. I will do this weekly. I will analyze my movement as well as performance. When I see that my impact it fat and steep, I will just make a note in my journal with a date stamp so I can look back and see how I changed.....or didn't change, but I won't focus on fixing the impact issue because I'm still overhauling the swing.

S10 Pickup Overhaul: As the overhaul is complete and the engine is humming, I might get the urge to put it in a race. Will I be able to drive it to Talladega and enter it into a NASCAR event? Definitely not, but I can take it to any local track on a Friday nite, spin the tires and have a blast of a time, and maybe even take a few pink slips? Yep!

Golf Swing Overhaul: As the swing rebuilding is complete and the impact and ball flight is solid and predictable, I might get the urge to enter a tournament. Will I be able to put on my Foot Joys and take my persimmons to the US Open? Nope, but I can take them to any local course and have a blast of a time from the white tees, and maybe even win a trophy or two? Yep!

BHSP,

First off, I would like to say that I wholeheartedly support you in your quest.

Secondly - and I suspect that I know what you will say - nevertheless - I feel somehow obligated to bring to your attention the following two exalted books of sorcery.









I know, I know... You're probably not interested. I understand. (And support you.)

Carry on, good man.

Eyeball wrote:


Lolol!! Outstanding Eyeball! I'm saving these and makeing them a part of my desktop wallpaper.

Man, I'm still chuckling....

Hmmm, I need to try that finger thingy that Hogan is doing on the cover.

This simple 7second vid teaches me a lot...Outstanding movement!
This is Tapio's student.

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This is a good training video for me.

Do you speak Japanese? LOL

Grady Dickens wrote:


Lol, only a little, but the language of the body is universal.......

I thought he was speaking Finnish??

I have followed your thread for sometime. I don't have a trained eye analyzing golf video but you seem to have many of Hogan's swing mannerisms. I believe your diligence will pay off. Liked the addition of the music to the clip!