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I really just wanted to bring to your attention a theory/methodology I have been following from Youtube for over a year now. I personally find it a very repeatable method and is simple and not over complicated. Several years ago I began overhauling my swing and after much research used this as my basis. I combined this with Sevam's foot rotation after following the WRX thread from day one.

This is nothing revolutionary in the vain of Sevam, Martin or Lee's but it is a solid and repeatable "system" that people can use as a basis for advancing their system.

Thanks Matt.
I subscribed to his channel. For me an easy guy to listen to.

Don,

There are some excellent video's Phil has done and well worth the time to work through.

Matt,

would this be considered a 'Steve Stricker' swing ?

Phily,

I would say that yes this is a very Stricker type swing. Simple, Repeatable and easy to maintain.

Matt,
This is too simple to get any traction.
Mike

Mike, by traction I assume you mean in relation to the ground. I originally had the same skepticism however after practicing the method I find that I still have enough traction to perform the move succesfully. Granted the shift is not as pronbouced but this is not how this method generates speed.

I view mikes foot rotation as a means of automating the transition from back to forward swing not as a source of power however this is a bonus side effect. Since taking up the basic model above I have not lost any distance and have gained consistancy in my day to day swing. I remember Mike did a video about keeping your work (hands) in front of you. This method is simply trying to do that same thing.

Mike, by traction I assume you mean in relation to the ground. I originally had the same skepticism however after practicing the method I find that I still have enough traction to perform the move succesfully. Granted the shift is not as pronbouced but this is not how this method generates speed.

I view mikes foot rotation as a means of automating the transition from back to forward swing not as a source of power however this is a bonus side effect. Since taking up the basic model above I have not lost any distance and have gained consistency in my day to day swing. I remember Mike did a video about keeping your work (hands) in front of you. This method is simply trying to do that same thing.

Matt,
I was just kidding with the traction comment. I was alluding to the fact that simplicity, though beautiful, may not elicit as much interest as some topics in which posters speak in riddles and can argue about whether or not "this is Hogan" or not. I think Phil's method of describing the swing is incredibly simple and spot on.
As for true traction, I find there is plenty of "using the ground" making the move from waist high on the DS to waist high on the through swing.
Thanks again for the introduction to Phil's site.
Mike

mike wrote:


Matt,

yeah I agree, thanks for posting the videos - I picked up some insights listening to Phil as well. I like learning about different interpretations of the golf swing, especially when the person knows what they're talking about, it gives me a chance to see a move I need to work on or something I already do from a new perspective.

Phil,

I completely know where your coming from. My biggest issue was always that my hands could creep behind me going back and lead to getting stuck and the lovely straight block. Phil's interpretation helped me get an image and a method to keep my hands in front of my body.

Like Matt said, it is so easy to get your hands stuck behind you - this addresses it. And it seems like if you concentrate on the Y, your swing plane takes care of itself. The videos are great... simple and to the point, and it makes sense. I showed it to my Dad, who is a good golfer, but hates complicated swing thoughts, and it really clicked for him too. Unfortunately, being in Wisconsin, I won't be able to work on this for awhile!

This is good stuff. All that talk of releasing your wrists DOWN you hear from time to time is just WRONG. Once the clubface gets parallel to your hands it ain't staying there. That is why John Erickson talks of maintaining wristcock. He also talks of having the hands disappear left while the clubface stays out...kissing the target for as long as possible. These videos give a great visual of that intent. Thanks for sharing.

This is Hunter Mahan and David Toms type of swing based on his description.

I don't think this is similar to Mahan's technique. Mahan is much more driven by rotation from the top. Stricker as stated above is closer to this model.