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Discussion started by paul kerin, on 4 years ago

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When looking down the line at Ben Hogan's set up with a closed stance, his left knee is not visible, when it should be. His knees only become square after the takeaway is made. I believe Hogan set up with his left leg straight and right knee turned in. I am interested to see if anyone has any thoughts on this.
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Andrew Roelink
Andrew Roelink
I have a thought or theory in Hogans technique that is started at set up and intention of this is maintained throughout the swing, even when it cant be seen! That is a an intent to connect right shoulder to left elbow, right hip to left knee, right knee to the ball. Whether his stance is open or closed, wedge, driver, draw or fade, this relationship would always exist!! This intention is tested by the swing dynamics and hence cant be seen at times particularly with the club being kept as under the right shoulder as possible, but because the intent remains it springs back as soon as the dynamics allow. What do others think?

4 years ago
Tim Carney
Tim Carney
I always play with a slightly closed stance.
4 years ago
Tim Carney
Tim Carney
I always play with a slightly closed stance.
4 years ago
paul kerin
paul kerin
Hello Linda, Thank you for your comments,
It's not so much that I think that the left leg straight at set up is important, which I do, but rather that Ben Hogan did, otherwise why else would he do it. I have never heard of this being mentioned or discussed anywhere, but i do think it's a key component to his set up and swing and from the evidence I have it's quite clear he did this and Hogan strikes me as the type of person who wouldn't do something unless it achieved results.
I have experimented with this myself and also with a pro and we have concluded that having the right knee turned in and left leg straight at set up creates a pre-impact position and also tensions the upper body against the lower body which enables the leg action and hip turn during the swing to become automatic. We also found that because the hip turn was automatic at the start of downswing, we were able to increase lag and clubhead speed by physically increasing the speed of hip turn during downswing.
i do agree that Hogan's right knee appears to move during the backswing, but that is because the leg moves with the hip turn. The right knee is still turned in at top of backswing. (this is something Hogan talks about in five lessons)
I hope this answers your questions, with thanks Paul Kerin.
4 years ago
linda richman
linda richman
HI Paul,
thanks for the facebook address.

Not sure why you think the left knee not being bent as much as right knee at setup, is important.

Not saying its not important, interested to understand your reasoning.

I think visible in this video;
Ben Hogans, right knee cap moves outward in BS and then inward in later part of DS, not kept stationary (kicked in), as so many seem to think. Its still a turn/pivot, not a sway, IMO.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFBDJPBH02A#t=106
4 years ago